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[personal profile] liv
I have to admit that some of what's behind my generally low / anxious mood lately is the news. I normally don't react very emotionally to hearing about things like terrorist attacks. It's a tragedy, I feel sad for the bereaved, but it doesn't feel personal, and it doesn't affect me much more than knowing that people are dying in wars and road accidents every day and not making news headlines. But the events in Paris this month have really got to me, not so much the attacks themselves as the reactions to it.

I was already quite upset by the #JeSuisCharlie thing. I think free speech is important, but the kind of gleeful righteousness at having a moral justification for republishing lots of racist cartoons all over the place felt distasteful to me. Partly just seeing the cartoons over and over again had a cumulative effect, whether they were being published for reasons of defending free speech in the face of a really nasty terrorist attack, or for reasons of showcasing just how horribly racist Charlie Hebdo can be. I think mainly what upset me was the sense of society's priorities. Like, when it's racism against Muslims suddenly the most important value in the world is the right to publish racist filth.

And yes, of course, free speech is just as important when it's speech I don't agree with. I would never have wanted to censor Charlie Hebdo, and it is sickening and morally vile that the terrorists killed the journalists for publishing unpleasant cartoons. But I am not Charlie, I have no interest in exercising my "right" to publish racism. I agreed very strongly with [personal profile] kerrypolka's commentary:
So many journalists have been killed in Syria, so many people of all kinds have been killed by drone strikes and Alliance of the Not Evil troops, and what gets people out on the streets to demonstrate and go "I AM THIS THING" is a racist rag being attacked?
I am really, really scared by the backlash against Muslims. (I have no time at all for "Islam isn't a race"; the anti-Muslim cartoons were using racialized depictions of Muslims, that's exactly why they're so problematic, not because they "criticized religion". Cameron writing to Muslim communities and asking them to justify that they support "British values" is nothing to do with theology, it's all about those weird foreigners immigrants brown-skinned people who might somehow be more loyal to our enemies than to the state.)

If people really care about free speech above all values, why aren't they out on the streets protesting about intensive surveillance of Muslims and removing their citizens' and human rights if they say anything that looks like it might be a bit critical of the government? How is France arresting a bunch of people for "glorifying terrorism" somehow good for free speech? (Well, ok, it's marginally less bad than shooting people for publishing racist cartoons, but.) Could it be because the right of white people to be as racist as they like is really really important, but if any non-white Muslim dares to criticize the status quo, well, they should totally be imprisoned without trial or made stateless or extradited to countries that torture prisoners of war, and that's just the price we have to pay to be safe from terrorism.

And yes, it's less important than the backlash against Muslims, but I think the thing that's really making me feel scared and vulnerable is just how many people have decided to blame the Jews for the whole thing. People from really quite respectable pro-Palestinian organizations making statements to the press about how the attacks on Charlie Hebdo were some kind of Israeli conspiracy. And when the terrorists went on to attack a kosher supermarket and take Jewish hostages, several of whom were murdered in the stand-off, that was still the Jews' fault because the Israeli occupation of Palestine causes otherwise perfectly reasonable Muslims to become murdering fanatics. The journalist who told a traumatized woman in Paris that her experiences served her right because now she's getting a taste of how badly Palestinians are treated by the Israeli military, because some random Jewish woman in Paris is totally responsible for everything bad Israel has ever done.

The Jewish community is jumpy. In the UK, even, there's been spates of graffiti and other Holocaust denial stuff around the upcoming Holocaust Memorial Day (my discomfort around the way Jewish mourning and commemoration gets policed is another topic, but this is a whole different level, it's outright spraypainting stuff with "Jew Liars" and swastikas, that kind of crap). All the synagogues are on high security alert. My friends who have kids in Jewish schools are reporting that the littlest children are learning gun drills, applying the training devised in Israel so that children too young to really understand why it's important learn to hide and stay quiet if a shooter comes into their kindergarten. I mean, maybe schoolchildren needing to practise hiding from armed attackers is a normal state of affairs in the USA, but in this country you just do not expect pre-school age children to need to know how to react if someone tries to shoot them, not unless they're Jewish.

And I feel like we're being manipulated in whom we're supposed to be afraid of. Being afraid of far-right violence is fairly normal, and that far-right element is getting more and more mainstream, particularly in Europe but to an extent over here too. I'm reading articles in the mainstream Swedish press with things like an interview with the grandmother of a friend of mine who says she hasn't felt afraid in Sweden since she arrived as a refugee from Belsen in 1945, and now she's afraid. And lots of my friends are having conversations on FB to the effect of, you just have to hope your love for your country will be requited, but you never really expect that. I know enough how that feels to be really worried for Muslims when you get Cameron questioning their patriotism; even if nowadays we talk about "supporting British values" rather than more direct "loyalty to Britain", it's very much the same kind of thing.

I think it's in the interests of the powerful to set Jews against Muslims, though. I'm worried because some of my Jewish community acquaintances on FB seem to be falling for this line, reposting things about how this attack shows "we" have to take a hard line against Arab / Muslim terrorism / all Muslims are anti-democracy and anti-semitic. Honestly I think it's much more likely that some white supremacist will attack a synagogue or Jewish organization than that a Muslim or Arab will, but it feels like the world, both the political sphere and individuals chattering on social media, are much more ready to condemn a rare attack like the one this month where the perpetrators are Muslim, than to actually stand up against white supremacists. After all, they do have the free speech right to deny the Holocaust and republish Nazi propaganda, and we have to defend the free speech of people we disagree with, right?

And the French situation, well. I no longer keep up with French media at all, so I really don't know what's really going on. I do know some people personally who have left France because they feel it's too dangerous for Jews to live there any more. I am grieving over synagogues being closed and not daring to hold Shabbat services for the first time in seventy years, which is to say, for the first time since Paris was under Nazi occupation. At the same time I am absolutely horrified at Netanyahu jetting in and telling French Jews to get out and come to Israel. I mean, he has an agenda, obviously, and he's inflaming an already volatile situation. Some of my crowd suspect that the report about anti-semitism in Britain that got a lot of coverage in the media recently was actually planted by fifth columnists trying to advance Netanyahu's agenda; the organization who did the survey is a group nobody's ever heard of before, they don't appear to have any real connections within the Jewish community.

In [personal profile] rmc28's Watership Down readthrough we've been discussing Hazel's Decision to leave the warren because of the danger that Fiver senses is coming. And I'm reading that in the light of considering the question, is it time for Jews to get out of France? And if it is, how long should I be staying in Britain? Like most Jewish people I know, I've always had an escape plan, I've always told myself that if things get bad I'll be one of the people who get out before it's too late. But when is "before it's too late"? Being too skittish about minor events, a few fanatics who don't matter, is obviously a terrible idea; for me, leaving my home and job and friends would be a rather bigger deal than it is for the mostly outskirter rabbits to leave their warren, and even for them, well, they don't want to ruin their lives for a false alarm. (If I do leave I'm not very likely to end up in Israel; for one thing Jews are not in fact safe there, for another it's a terrible place for religious non-Orthodox Jews and this whole propaganda campaign to get people to make aliyah is really targeted at purebloods, not people like me, and that's quite aside from not wanting to participate directly in the occupation.)

Not entirely rationally, the thing that's making me feel most vulnerable is not the obvious violence, either by the far right or by terrorists claiming to act in the name of Islam. It's the way that people who are supposed to be on my side, secularist, cosmopolitan, Enlightment Europeans keep trying to blame the Jews for everything. I sort of lost it when lefties started calling Teresa May a Jew-lover and a Zionist because of her attempt to use the attack as an excuse to increase surveillance powers. I mean, I hugely disagree with May, I think this idea of banning all encrypted communication is completely terrible, but the people I thought I could rely on to help me fight this latest attack on civil liberties have decided that it's all my fault because I'm from the same ethnic group as illiberal politicians in Israel.

So like, it's the Jews' fault that terrorists attacked journalists, it's the Jews' fault when the same terrorists also murdered Jews, it's the Jews' fault when governments make a power-grab playing on people's fears of these terrorist attacks, it's the Jews' fault that people are responding to a terrorist atrocity with islamophobia and xenophobia instead of working for unity. So who does that leave on my side?

I know that there's been a concerted effort to promote Jewish-Muslim unity and lots of really good responses in the media with Jewish spokespeople countering the bleak picture painted by the weird out of nowhere survey. I think part of what I feel vulnerable is that I'm not as actively involved in the Jewish community as I'd like to be; I read about this stuff on Twitter and FB and it helps, but it's all a bit second-hand, and if I lived in London or somewhere with a bigger community I might have been participating in unity and interfaith events, not just watching. And I suspect that's also why several people from my communities are scared, we're seeing the security alerts and the scary news stories, we're not seeing the positive, thriving Jewish communities well integrated into society.

I'm going to Manchester day Limmud with [personal profile] withagreatlove next week, and I think that will help me to reconnect. And while I was thinking this through I was taking comfort from snippets of Psalms and liturgy, it's kind of always been like this, we have a religious framework to handle being no more than grudgingly tolerated in general society, until we're not. But I think in general the right answer is to engage positively in my community, rather than to let these nebulous feelings of being scared and unwelcome dictate my response. And get my interfaith group up and running again.

This is the kind of thing it's probably more foolish to put on the internet than talking openly about my sexuality. But never mind, I generally trust my readership to respond sensitively when I'm talking about really hard stuff.

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Date: 2015-01-22 01:16 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] wychwood
I'm sorry you've been feeling like this. I've been very aware of the Islamophobia going on, but haven't seen so much of the anti-Semitism; it sucks that we are still doing this, wtf.

I'd also seen that Jewish survey, and thought it seemed very weird; I know there are issues, but I found it very hard to believe that so many people really felt like they were going to have to leave the country in the near future, because I know how embedded you and most of my other Jewish friends are here - from what you're saying, it sounds like I was overestimating your comfort level, but I'm glad you're not upping sticks right now!

This country is so fucked up about immigration and assimilation and anything that is not exactly like the way the Daily Mail would like the world to be, lately. I don't know if it's getting worse or if I'm just more aware of it...

And I hope that the answer to your question is that most people are still on your side, but there's clearly a set of extremely unpleasant vocal minorities (at best) and I can totally understand why you would feel threatened by it.

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Date: 2015-01-22 02:22 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
The Anti-Semitism Survey was conducted via Facebook and Twitter, and I doubt whether the sample population is representative. The survey questions I have seen were not at the level of "When did you stop beating your wife?" but they were loaded.

The Jewish Chronicle, who tend to be alarmist, dismissed the survey out of hand.

Southernwood

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Date: 2015-01-22 04:02 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] davidgillon
The Anti-Semitism Survey was conducted via Facebook and Twitter, and I doubt whether the sample population is representative.

Having the survey population self-select whether to participate pretty much rules out any chance of it being representative - it's automatically selecting for the most polarised opinions.

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Date: 2015-01-22 03:42 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] cjwatson
I have nothing terribly useful to say, except hugs and a hope that it will get better. I hadn't heard that particular flavour of attack on May from the left; I mean, WHAT, there are so many perfectly good ways to criticise the Home Office Evil Field, what possesses people to go for that?

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Date: 2015-01-22 03:47 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] pretty_panther
♥ Just leaving my support for you.

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Date: 2015-01-22 03:59 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] davidgillon
I'm one of the people who tweeted #JeSuisCharlie, but I draw a distinction between expressing solidarity with a group who have been attacked over their expression of free speech, and agreeing with everything they stand for. Even when their cartoons have had valid points to make, they were diminished by the racism.

The expression of this I really liked was one reported during the Sunday marches: 'Je Suis Charlie, Je Suis Flic, Je Suis Juif' (I'm Charlie, I'm a cop, I'm a Jew), and we shouldn't forget 'Je Suis Ahmed' (for the Muslim cop executed as he lay wounded). There is a problematic element with the racism, but overall I found it a sign of hope and solidarity, and people waving pens and pencils is preferable to people waving just about anything else.

A friend commented on the marches that they reminded her powerfully of 'Do you hear the people sing' from Les Mis, whereas for me the image it brought to mind was the masked march on Westminster in V for Vendetta.

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Date: 2015-01-22 04:17 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] hatam_soferet
Dear badger. You know that if you ever need a place to stay or a visa or anything at all we can do for you, you have only to let us know, yes? French Alaska may not be totally ideal but it is a place we feel safe.

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Date: 2015-01-22 04:37 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] watersword
I have nothing sensible to contribute from my extremely outsider perspective, just a sick horror that we are having this conversation. Again. Still. The Jewish-Muslim tensions seem to me to parallel the tensions going on in my professional community at the moment, where there are a lot of people turning on each other and taking sides and rejecting bridge-building and it is beyond disheartening.

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Date: 2015-01-22 05:19 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] angelofthenorth
This country scares me. The way it's shifting to the Daily Mail and its ilk worries me more than anything.

Much love and if you need me, I'm here.

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Date: 2015-01-22 05:31 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] merrythebard
Nothing intelligent to say, other than that I read this, and I'm thinking of you, and that you are great. <3

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Date: 2015-01-22 06:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ghoti.livejournal.com
I've been mostly hiding under a rock and still noticed a rise in anti-semitism recently. Not a lot to say, except to send hugs.

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Date: 2015-01-22 06:21 pm (UTC)
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I'm so sorry that you're feeling like this. I wish I had something more useful to contribute.

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Date: 2015-01-22 06:27 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] silveradept
I'm...[something not positive] about the ability of people to ignore reality to the point that they would suggest an attack motivated by a fanatical interpretation of Islam is somehow caused by the existence of Jews.

I have similar not-positive about people who use this sort of attack to decry Muslims as a foreign other that has to be stopped or subjugated. Especially in the States, where we really should know better by now. Yet this is seen as regular conservatism, rather than things that should be the sole province of the FN, UKIP, or the KKK. I don't understand, cognitively, why we're still doing this.

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Date: 2015-01-22 08:55 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] davidgillon
And I feel like we're being manipulated in whom we're supposed to be afraid of.

Undoubtedly we are, and in fact this is making me worry even more about UKIP than I already was. The week of the Charlie Hebdo attack I saw a headline saying Farage had blamed the attack on multiculturalism, which is basically taking a stand alongside the terrorists against everything Charlie Hebdo stood for*. Then he goes on Faux News backing the claim there are no-go areas for non-Muslims in the UK and Europe. Clearly he's willing to shift to (or to more openly acknowledge) a more Front Nationale type position in the current climate (which I've always felt was his true position). Equally immigrants/foreigners/the other as a threat is something the Tories are willing to play with, no matter the consequences, because they see it as somewhere they are haemoraging voters to UKIP, it creates a difficult position for Labour to fight, and of course it's what many of their right-wing backwoodsmen actually think.

Throughout this last parliament we've seen a calculated drift towards more hate-based rhetoric from the Tories, initially this was directed at benefit recipients and disabled people in order to undermine their support and obfuscate the true effects of the Welfare Reform Bill, and we certainly saw the effects in the language being used to abuse disabled people on the street (been there, done that, been interviewed on it, been told I was clearly one of the good crips, but that people were perfectly entitled to decide we were bad crips if we weren't able to work by the Tory MP** put up to give the government position). But as UKIP have grown as a threat to the right-wing vote, and Labour looked likely to win an election fought on the impact of austerity alone, shifting that rabble-rousing to immigration and Europe has clearly become increasingly attractive to them as it creates an electoral debate that plays to their strengths rather than their weaknesses. I'm worried that it will get worse as the election approaches, and the thought of UKIP gaining a share of power truly scares me, because they need a threat to retain their vote, and the 'threat' is most easily construed as someone who looks or acts different. Nor do I feel particularly confident in Labour under Miliband, given his definite tendency to try and pander to the Daily Mail vote. About the only positive I can see in this is I don't think any of the parties, not even UKIP***, are stupid enough to spout anything openly anti-semitic, but I think things are likely to become worse for the other easy target communities of benefit recipients, disabled people, and immigrants, and that kind of climate is one that does allow increased anti-semitism to develop.

All of which adds up to anyone who claims they're on the left, yet spouting the language of hate seriously needing to look at which side their activism is working in favour of!

Not really a very reassuring post, I'm afraid, but in this climate it's becoming more and more important for us to take a stand against intolerance, wherever we find it, but most especially when we find it coming from those who are supposed to be our leaders.

*Bizarrely they do seem to have stood for multiculturalism at the same time as having problematially racist cartoons

** Mark Reckless, now UKIP, it was after that interview I started referring to him as Reckless by Name, Reckless by Nature.

*** Of course there's no guaranteeing what idiocy individual UKIP candidates may come up with, such as the one who announced on the eve of a council election that he favoured compulsory abortion for disabled babies, and the one who blamed last years floods on allowing gay marriage.
Edited (Damn, caught myself being sucked into their language 'benefit seeker' when I meant 'recipient') Date: 2015-01-22 09:07 pm (UTC)

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Date: 2015-01-22 09:23 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] davidgillon
Of course there's no guaranteeing what idiocy individual UKIP candidates may come up with

I really shouldn't tempt fate like that:

Ukip Election Candidate Wants To Ban Benefit Claimants From Driving

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Date: 2015-01-22 09:06 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] cremains
As a Jew who lives in Sweden, I am so glad to see this post, because the "scary Muslims" trope is weird and overpromoted. Absolutely the far right continues to be the source of most antisemitism, and in increasingly inventive ways. Sadly, one thing that I will say is that street harassment from Muslims actually has spiked this year; I've experienced it myself, whereas the first few years I lived here it was always white people from Christian backgrounds. I also think that antisemitism in general has gotten much more vocal and active against visible Jews where I live. I and many of my friends have noticed harassment increase across the board. Solidarity with other oppressed groups is the answer, but speaking strictly from personal experience about what I hope is a localised phenomenon, antisemitism is not a media exaggeration either.

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Date: 2015-01-22 09:55 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] siderea
No spoons, much love, I lift my ironic flame.

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Date: 2015-01-23 12:45 am (UTC)
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I don't want to say too much about such a volatile subject on what's essentially a public forum, but *hugs* and we will talk face-to-face soon. Take heart!

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Date: 2015-01-23 04:44 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] monanotlisa
I'm horrified to read your words here, especially that you have an escape plan. Liv, you are my quintessential English friend; imagining you being forced away from your homeland creates a sense of vertigo.

But after taking a breath, I wasn't so surprised? You're prudent; you would make preparations for something that may be a remote possibility...but a possibility. Anti-Semitism is real and does manifest every day. People's simmering anger and resentment looks for scapegoats, and has for a well-documented time in history. I cannot begin to imagine this loathing being directed at me by virtue of being part of an ethnic, racial, or cultural group (being queer is not that; it's still, something connected to Doing rather than Being most of the time, and when that doesn't derail so much I'd be interested in your view on that).

I hope very much that you will be safe, that all of you will be. I wish I trusted Europeans more, but my own country having stepped down down from genocide to battery, intimidation, and property damage is hardly a stellar record.

That said, while it must have cost you enormously to write all this out, on such a difficult topic, as a passing-for-everyting gentile and your friend, I'm thankful; you shed light on what is going on behind the scenes, question who benefits from this fear-mongering. It is infinitely ironic yet soul-crushing to me that all those terror networks I do not want to honor even by moniker or acronym have such diligent affiliates in right-wing or generally uncritical media outlets. In particular, I appreciate your and kerrypolka's classification of the #JeSuisCharlie reaction (in which I didn't partake because it struck me as a bad idea -- not the solidarity with the victims -- yes! -- but with a specific strain of reactivity and Islamophobic hostility, if that makes sense).

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Date: 2015-01-23 12:39 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] heliopausa
I feel as if we've plunged, or are plunging into horrible, hard times. (to which the answer about Syria and other places, of course.) The rise of religious hatred (I'm not even going to call it fundamentalism - someone can believe passionately and at the simplest level, and still not hate) is seen in India, too, and maybe in Myanmar.
It's horrible and wrong that you or anybody should feel that terrible uncertainty; I wish I could think of something better to do than offer sympathy.

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Date: 2015-01-23 12:40 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] randomling
Terribly belated, but I wanted to leave my support and love here too. ♥

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Date: 2015-01-23 01:03 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] ewt
Thank you for writing this.

I have noticed both the anti-semitism and the anti-Islam sentiment, and the way different groups are co-opting each other -- sometimes with quite absurd results. (The one that springs to mind immediately is the TERF tendency to try to exclude trans women from "women-only spaces" because abuse survivors might feel threatened is one that seems to take in a lot of people -- and results in trans people being excluded from public toilets, rather than from abuse support groups.) None of it scares me as much as the disablism does, but that's only because the reality is that I'm more likely to be personally at risk because of disability than because of other factors.

For what it's worth, within Christianity I have noticed more tendency to anti-Islam than to anti-semitism. Cold comfort I'm sure! It usually follows statistics about the so-called Islamic State or other groups persecuting Christians in the Middle East; my instinct is that Christians in such situations are persecuted because they are a visible minority group rather than for being Christian, but it's still awful. It's something that I try to respond to sensibly when I see it.

I don't think having an exit plan is a bad idea; but the decision on when to put it into action is always going to be a tough one. I would be happy to discuss this further in person if you would find it helpful.

I agree that the right answer for the time being is engaging positively in your community. The interfaith group sounds good too.

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Date: 2015-01-23 01:58 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] lavendersparkle
I think a lot of non-Jews just aren't aware of antisemitism, in a similar manner to how a lot of men aren't aware of women's experience of street harrassment. My non-Jewish mother-in-law thought that the people standing outside synagogues in Saturdays were just there to greet and welcome people.

I find that the more socially acceptable, generally vaguely Israel related antisemitism of left-wing well-educated people gets to me more than the risk of violent hate crime. I can deal with the fact that there may be horrible people in the world who want to kill me and comfort myself that the risk from them is still really tiny compared to the risk of getting hit by a car. I find it more difficult deal with the jarring feeling when someone who I thought was roughly 'on my side' says something antisemitic and I'm left wondering how many of the people I think of as friends are thinking the same thing and not saying it.

Maybe I live in a lovely bubble, but in my experience the Jews versus Muslims thing seems to be perpetuated by non-'Jews or Muslims'. In my experience, Jews and Muslims tend to have a bit more of a common sympathy from their immigrant, minority, discrimination experience and realise that their live are going to be a lot less pleasant if tensions develop. Whereas non-'Jews or Muslims' are more likely be all 'yay, I can justify being nasty to one minority group by claiming to be supporting another minority group and it will have no serious negative consequences for my safety and that of my co-religionists'. Next time some random toss pot identifies me as Jewish and decides I should listen to him explain how he's 'on the Muslims' side' I'm going to choose to interpret it as him hating Burmese Buddhists so that I can watch his tiny mind explode.

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Date: 2015-01-24 12:59 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Not got the spoons for a proper comment, but, I am right behind you, and it's terrible that anyone has to feel this way, and dammit I wish the world would stop being so crap :-(

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Date: 2015-01-24 01:00 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] ceb
Sorry, that was me.

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Date: 2015-01-25 10:22 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] khalinche
I'm late to this, and don't have much of use to say, but I send you support and love and hope first of all that the current wave of widespread social prejudice dies down again for all our sakes and that secondly you are currently feeling better.

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Date: 2015-01-27 01:03 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] sunflowerinrain
As I put on Facebook, I am not Charlie. Many people in France responded to it with JeSuisLassana (that heroic immigrant Muslim staff member in the Jewish supermarket), which was much more positive. A lot of news reports are as wrong about Paris and the rest of France as they are about Birmingham. Here in rural France there is some fear of "Islamistes", but then there are few if any Muslims so people only know the rubbish put out by tv and newsrags. I haven't heard of any anti-semitism (I'll check with Jewish friends). It isn't Paris! In fact, the only people who are shunned here are Parisians. I'll stop there because my prejudice against urban living will be showing. ;)

I think the biggest risk in England is from thugs who pick up any excuse to indulge their aggression and hide from their unexamined fears. They will target whatever they are pointed at. As a crip, I feel fear in some urban areas; I worry for my son who has the looks of his Spanish, possibly Moorish, heritage and lives in an Anglo-Dutch part of the country. Hwever, if you are part of a target group, the fact that the aggressors have no clue is not much comfort. The UK media's stirring-up over Israel has caused a huge amount of harm (shame they never seem to mention Jews For Palestine and similar groups), but I believe that most people are NOT thugs.

Love and hugs.

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