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Apr. 18th, 2005 05:14 pm
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I noticed that one of the entries in the style contest has a very cool feature: the option to sort comments chronologically instead of by thread. This style is [livejournal.com profile] cmshaw's Wide Lines layout. I asked him how he feels about his layout being used and adapted, and he was happy for me to play with it.

So what I've done at the moment is applied it to my journal as a secondary style, and I have included links from my comments page to 'Unthread comments', so that the links reload the comments page in the chronological version of his layout. This is kind of a crude kludge for the time being; what I'd really like to do is adapt his code to my layout directly. But obviously the latter is more work, especially for a clueless non-programmer like me. So if you read my journal directly rather than on your friends page, you can use this feature if you like.

If you want to apply it to your own journal it's a bit of a complicated process, but I can explain how I went about it. You need a paid account to be able to do it, though of course if [livejournal.com profile] cmshaw wins the competition his style may become public and thus potentially available to free users.

Also, I pointed out to [livejournal.com profile] cmshaw some potential usability issues with his layout as it is, and offered to modify it to make it more customizable by adding more named CSS classes to the HTML it generates. And he was very receptive to my ideas. So I feel all Open Source-ish now; I wish I knew what I was doing more!

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Date: 2005-04-18 04:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] taimatsu.livejournal.com
But why would you want to do that?

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Date: 2005-04-18 05:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] coalescent.livejournal.com
Well, it's good to know that you can do that. I'm not quite sure why you'd want to, though. :)

Also, every time I look at your journal page I remember that at some point I want to learn how to actually design these things. 'tis very impressive, your layout.

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Date: 2005-04-18 05:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pseudomonas.livejournal.com
I'm not sure I said that; did I?

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Date: 2005-04-18 06:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] angelsk.livejournal.com
your entry page look really weird in opera.

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Date: 2005-04-18 06:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pw201.livejournal.com
What a good idea!

I keep meaning to learn S2 at some stage, although I'm put of by the lack of decent documentation. What I'd really like is a minimalist, machine-readable style which I could use to write something which would check for new comments on threads on other people's journals without hammering LJ's servers too hard (it may be, of course, that the database loading involved dwarfs the effort of producing the HTML: I'd have to ask on [livejournal.com profile] lj_dev first.

How does your/[livejournal.com profile] cmshaw's layout cope with posts where the comments would span multiple pages? I've never had such a thread, I think, but I've seen other "do fancy stuff with comments" code which didn't like that.

By the way, in Safari 1.3 (Mac browser) and in Firefox, your navigation links to "n comments"/"add comment" (or their equivalent) are only active when the mouse pointer is right at the top of the region you'd expect, so that the pointer points to the top of the text. Don't know why.

Re: weird in Opera

Date: 2005-04-18 07:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] angelsk.livejournal.com
meh, s'ok!

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Date: 2005-04-19 01:08 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hatam-soferet.livejournal.com
It's so lovely that you have time to do cute geeky stuff again! Pretty journal. Not sure about the icon-fitting-inage, but otherwise jolly pretty.

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Date: 2005-04-20 10:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hatam-soferet.livejournal.com
Can you explain exactly what you mean by that, please?

Sorry, I spend far too much time expecting sentences to mean what I want them to mean, and not enough time making sure they actually match up to how other people use the words. I meant in the posts - it looks a bit forced, having square icons butting up against that pretty rounded border. You could try centering (oh hell, I've forgotten how we spell that in English - HELP!!) it because then it would balance the straight line at the top in the middle, or making it display with a border like the border you're using for the posts, which wouldn't help the shape, but would unify it a bit more so it wouldn't matter.

I'm not much of an HTML guru any more, I fear. HTML moved on while I wasn't looking. Although I did just learn about style sheets, which was fun. I hijacked one of Dreamweaver's samples.

oh, and, modify original statement to read "It's so lovely that you have time to do cute geeky stuff without feeling guilty again."

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