suspected was misunderstanding that could be cleared up, hence thinking I should go away and wait until less brain-melty? but thank you for clarifying, and I will try to come back and be more constructive once I've y'know had a cold drink :-)
also you are an awesome ally and. yes. Totally agree on not-wanting-to-be-exclusionary-fail?
I will think a bit more about the space-definitions thing -- this was in a very particular context and relatively small group of people (i.e. ~10 of us), where four of us are some flavour of trans* and none of us have passing privilege, and the suggestion for phrasing was being made by a cis woman (who'd started out with "women-only space" while meaning "no cisdudes space", which I also think is problematic). So, yeah, I came into that conversation a bit fraught already which is why it stuck in the mind! Will def think some more & thank you.
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Date: 2012-07-25 04:01 pm (UTC)suspected was misunderstanding that could be cleared up, hence thinking I should go away and wait until less brain-melty? but thank you for clarifying, and I will try to come back and be more constructive once I've y'know had a cold drink :-)
also you are an awesome ally and. yes. Totally agree on not-wanting-to-be-exclusionary-fail?
I will think a bit more about the space-definitions thing -- this was in a very particular context and relatively small group of people (i.e. ~10 of us), where four of us are some flavour of trans* and none of us have passing privilege, and the suggestion for phrasing was being made by a cis woman (who'd started out with "women-only space" while meaning "no cisdudes space", which I also think is problematic). So, yeah, I came into that conversation a bit fraught already which is why it stuck in the mind! Will def think some more & thank you.