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That's a really interesting and thought-provoking example, and I think it relates to where I'm coming from with trying to be modest. Social praise for being acceptably pretty and well-dressed, which needs a certain type of body, and financial and time resources to achieve, yes, that's very well worth thinking about.

BTW, I hope you're not feeling too piled on in this discussion; several people seem to disagree with you a bit vehemently.