Thank you, this is helpful and insightful. I definitely think that part of the issue is "who has power" is contextual, not absolute. Really good example of a man in a female dominated profession, it absolutely is true that he may experience anti-male sexism locally, while still benefitting from the general privilege of being male in a male-dominated society.
I'm sorry to hear about your negative experiences as a Christian in non-Christian spaces. Your analysis is more generous and more cogent than I could probably manage in the circumstances, and I definitely find that perspective helpful. I haven't always got it right in terms of how I interact with Christians in interfaith and Jewish spaces, where locally I hold power and authority.
Jews and racism: I am basically ok with conceding the word "racism" to mean structural harm done to BIPOC minorities by white supremacist society, and use a different name for other kinds of ethnic discrimination. You set out a very clear argument for why this might be a more helpful use of language. If a dominant white group commits genocide against a white minority, that's arguably not racism, but it certainly is harm, and it's not oppression that is incidental to the victims' ethnic background.
Lots of oppressions that harm straight people also harm LGBTQ+ people, definitely no denial there. But because, say, pregnancy discrimination harms non-women who are pregnant, doesn't mean that straight pregnant women are completely safe because of their straightness. Homophobia can harm some straight people who are GNC and mistaken for gay even when they're not, or forced to restrict their behaviour and self-expression to avoid being called gay, but it's still homophobia. There are rare circumstances (like the disability benefits one) where a same-sex relationship may fly under the radar and an opposite sex relationship may be directly targeted, though I'm not sure that is really a "privilege" for people in same sex relationships exactly. The point is not that straight people are discriminated against uniquely based on being straight, but that they are discriminated against or subjected to violence based on their sexuality. They might be oppressed for having sex with the wrong people or in the wrong situation or the wrong way, and I'm frustrated with claims that that can never happen because only LGBTQ+ people are discriminated against because of their sexuality.
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Date: 2023-08-03 10:10 am (UTC)I'm sorry to hear about your negative experiences as a Christian in non-Christian spaces. Your analysis is more generous and more cogent than I could probably manage in the circumstances, and I definitely find that perspective helpful. I haven't always got it right in terms of how I interact with Christians in interfaith and Jewish spaces, where locally I hold power and authority.
Jews and racism: I am basically ok with conceding the word "racism" to mean structural harm done to BIPOC minorities by white supremacist society, and use a different name for other kinds of ethnic discrimination. You set out a very clear argument for why this might be a more helpful use of language. If a dominant white group commits genocide against a white minority, that's arguably not racism, but it certainly is harm, and it's not oppression that is incidental to the victims' ethnic background.
Lots of oppressions that harm straight people also harm LGBTQ+ people, definitely no denial there. But because, say, pregnancy discrimination harms non-women who are pregnant, doesn't mean that straight pregnant women are completely safe because of their straightness. Homophobia can harm some straight people who are GNC and mistaken for gay even when they're not, or forced to restrict their behaviour and self-expression to avoid being called gay, but it's still homophobia. There are rare circumstances (like the disability benefits one) where a same-sex relationship may fly under the radar and an opposite sex relationship may be directly targeted, though I'm not sure that is really a "privilege" for people in same sex relationships exactly. The point is not that straight people are discriminated against uniquely based on being straight, but that they are discriminated against or subjected to violence based on their sexuality. They might be oppressed for having sex with the wrong people or in the wrong situation or the wrong way, and I'm frustrated with claims that that can never happen because only LGBTQ+ people are discriminated against because of their sexuality.