lethargic_man would like to conduct a wholly1somewhat unscientific poll about the pronunciation of the word schedule. Note: we're looking for how you personally pronounce it, not references to authoritative sources.
There's enough variaton within the UK that distinguishing the different bits of the UK from another another would seem like a good idea. (I imagine the same is true of the USA.)
Actually I tend to somewhere between the two because I can never remember which one is supposed to mark one out as an American as opposed to a Canadian.
On another note, isn't ait scary when the hairy McHaggisses come out in force.
I grew up in Germany and learned English from my English father, so I'm a native speaker but learned English in a non-English-speaking country.
My accent was initially British (I don't know whether my father has a regional accent; I think it's simply something like "educated middle-class"), until I came to school, which deposited an American accent layer on top.
Now that I've been out of school for years, my "default" accent is mostly English again, but the mixture occasionally makes me unsure about things. (And I sometimes pronounce words incorrectly that I've seen mostly in print, e.g. "formidable", where I keep forgetting whether it's FOR-midable or for-MID-able.)
I think I could say either, and I'm not sure which one I'd use more often or which one seems more correct to me. Maybe sk-, though, which is what I voted for.
Incidentally, I think I say "skedjool" but "shedyool", i.e. the sound in the middle varies depending on which variant of the word I use.
I have a feeling I use both, and I'm not sure what it depends on. Maybe the feel of the surrounding words? Certainly I don't have a strong sense for one or the other version.
I learned to speak English in various European countries OK, I admit I didn't think of that possibility. But I also think that someone with that 'weird' a linguistic background would not provide terribly useful data for the poll, so I'm ok with missing you out.
Also, my Dad might object to your poll, because he learnt to speak English in a country slightly to the North of England Well then, he could choose 'other' and write 'Scotland' in the free text box. The same goes for any other Scots. I don't see why everyone has such a problem with defining Scotland is an English-speaking country other than England!
distinguishing the different bits of the UK from another another would seem like a good idea Indeed, that was exactly my plan. Offending all the patriotic Scots was not the intention at all *sigh*.
I imagine the same is true of the USA. Yes, I should possibly have included regions within the USA, and finer grained British regions than just the constituent countries. But I was too lazy (and didn't think I'd get a big enough sample for meaningful data) to ask for that level of detail.
Fair dinkum, but if it was part of your study, then you should have included it as an option in the poll itself (rather than hoping the "other" option would clarify the issue).
Where's the problem? That Scotland is not a country? That the language spoken there isn't English? That Scotland should count as part of England? Do enlighten me - I was trying so hard not to offend!
But I also think that someone with that 'weird' a linguistic background would not provide terribly useful data for the poll, so I'm ok with missing you out.
Fair enough. For the record, if you do decide to assess my weird use of language, I say schedule with a sk.
I don't see why everyone has such a problem with defining Scotland as an English-speaking country other than England!
Sorry about the fuss - after years of listening to both Scotland-raised parents (who now live in England) complaining about bias against themselves and their countrymen, defense is a natural habit. Why not mention us, if we were part of the group you wanted to target?
I've always found that when I hear someone say it "sh", it made me think they had a lisp or something. So I'd have to say that "sk" is more common in Canada. (Though I do hear "sh" from many news anchors)
Miscellaneous. Eclectic. Random. Perhaps markedly literate, or at least suffering from the compulsion to read any text that presents itself, including cereal boxes.
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Date: 2004-08-13 08:37 am (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2004-08-13 09:07 am (UTC)Also, my Dad might object to your poll, because he learnt to speak English in a country slightly to the North of England. ;)
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Date: 2004-08-13 09:28 am (UTC)I think I say
sh - when saying the schedule
sk - when saying it has been scheduled
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Date: 2004-08-13 09:43 am (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2004-08-13 10:14 am (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2004-08-13 10:16 am (UTC)On another note, isn't ait scary when the hairy McHaggisses come out in force.
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Date: 2004-08-13 11:01 am (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2004-08-13 11:46 am (UTC)My accent was initially British (I don't know whether my father has a regional accent; I think it's simply something like "educated middle-class"), until I came to school, which deposited an American accent layer on top.
Now that I've been out of school for years, my "default" accent is mostly English again, but the mixture occasionally makes me unsure about things. (And I sometimes pronounce words incorrectly that I've seen mostly in print, e.g. "formidable", where I keep forgetting whether it's FOR-midable or for-MID-able.)
I think I could say either, and I'm not sure which one I'd use more often or which one seems more correct to me. Maybe sk-, though, which is what I voted for.
Incidentally, I think I say "skedjool" but "shedyool", i.e. the sound in the middle varies depending on which variant of the word I use.
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Date: 2004-08-13 12:29 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2004-08-13 12:34 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2004-08-13 12:43 pm (UTC)OK, I admit I didn't think of that possibility. But I also think that someone with that 'weird' a linguistic background would not provide terribly useful data for the poll, so I'm ok with missing you out.
Also, my Dad might object to your poll, because he learnt to speak English in a country slightly to the North of England
Well then, he could choose 'other' and write 'Scotland' in the free text box. The same goes for any other Scots. I don't see why everyone has such a problem with defining Scotland is an English-speaking country other than England!
(no subject)
Date: 2004-08-13 12:55 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2004-08-13 12:59 pm (UTC)Indeed, that was exactly my plan. Offending all the patriotic Scots was not the intention at all *sigh*.
I imagine the same is true of the USA.
Yes, I should possibly have included regions within the USA, and finer grained British regions than just the constituent countries. But I was too lazy (and didn't think I'd get a big enough sample for meaningful data) to ask for that level of detail.
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Date: 2004-08-13 01:00 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2004-08-13 01:49 pm (UTC)!!!!
If that's not bait, then I don't know what is....
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Date: 2004-08-13 01:56 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2004-08-13 01:59 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2004-08-13 02:08 pm (UTC)"Wellthenyashouldaputscotlandasanoption!"
Take that!
Date: 2004-08-13 02:49 pm (UTC)Re: Take that!
Date: 2004-08-13 03:43 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2004-08-13 07:39 pm (UTC)Fair enough. For the record, if you do decide to assess my weird use of language, I say schedule with a sk.
I don't see why everyone has such a problem with defining Scotland as an English-speaking country other than England!
Sorry about the fuss - after years of listening to both Scotland-raised parents (who now live in England) complaining about bias against themselves and their countrymen, defense is a natural habit. Why not mention us, if we were part of the group you wanted to target?
(no subject)
Date: 2004-08-13 11:50 pm (UTC)(There's always one...)
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Date: 2004-08-16 10:48 pm (UTC)