Chanukah

Dec. 19th, 2003 07:00 pm
liv: In English: My fandom is text obsessed / In Hebrew: These are the words (words)
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I have ideological issues with Chanukah. But this evening, I came home from work, and was so dead tired that I fell straight to sleep (this was the middle of the afternoon!) And I woke up and it was cold and dark, but there was my chanukah present from [livejournal.com profile] lethargic_man. All of a sudden, I felt far away from my family and my people, and I had a strong impulse to go out to the corner shop and buy nightlights with which I improvised a chanukah lamp.

Then I sat down and wrote a highly enthusiastic review of The Player of Games.

To those who care about such things, happy chanukah.

Of token rebellions in religion

Date: 2003-12-21 10:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lethargic-man.livejournal.com
I must admit that I really admired that single light thing you did at Hengrave a couple of years back; making a point of doing the absolute bare letter of the law minimum is an extremely stylish approach.

That reminds me of the situation in Guy Gavriel Kay's (fantasy novel) Tigana, in which every year there is a three day period, the Ember Days, during which no fires are to be lit or maintained.

There is a people in the book who have undergone a national disaster -- the conquest of their land, the destruction of its cities, the death of their king, the oppression of the people and even the taking away by sorcery of their land's name. We meet a member of this people who insists on keeping a single light lit through the Ember Days, as a symbol of the way her people have been let down by their god.

I was most struck with this when I read it; it struck me as a very apt way of registering rage at the G-d you continue, nonetheless, to serve. ("Not bloody theodicy again," groans [livejournal.com profile] rysmiel.) However, I never could see an easy way to fit it into Judaism.

Maybe I just wasn't looking hard enough. (Or very hard at all, for that matter.)

Re: Of token rebellions in religion

Date: 2003-12-22 08:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rysmiel.livejournal.com
There is a people in the book who have undergone a national disaster -- the conquest of their land, the destruction of its cities, the death of their king, the oppression of the people and even the taking away by sorcery of their land's name. We meet a member of this people who insists on keeping a single light lit through the Ember Days, as a symbol of the way her people have been let down by their god.

My connection with that was the Bealtaine fire, and St. Patrick breaking the Ban.

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Date: 2015-07-22 05:06 pm (UTC)
lethargic_man: (capel)
From: [personal profile] lethargic_man
I have always been aware of a strong tradition of theodicy and even protest against God within Judaism; it permeates both our liturgy and our scholarship.

Could you elaborate on this, please? I am writing an article for this year's Grassroots Jews booklet about why I do not prostrate (using Tigana as an analogy), and would not like to leave myself open to rebuttal on account of ignorance.

Re: Of token rebellions in religion

Date: 2005-10-13 07:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lethargic-man.livejournal.com
It struck me a little while ago (but I forgot to mention it to you) that actually I do have an equivalent in my life of the refusing to extinguish all flames on the Ember Days: I don't, and won't, bow in the High Holyday services.

This year everyone else in eye range without my actually looking about was bowing; I was the only one not. But I stuck to my guns; I'll worship the Creator but won't bow to a god the liturgy claims to reward the good but allows <insert example of choice> to happen.

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