Quaranmeme
Apr. 15th, 2020 06:41 pm![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png)
From just about everybody.
1. Are you an Essential Worker?
Nope. I have been comfortably working from home for a month, making online education. It's useful, thousands of people have been learning about bacterial genomics from my stuff, but it's not essential. In many ways my job hasn't changed very much since lockdown since we did a lot of collaborating with scientists all over the world by conference call, in order to make material that goes on the internet anyway.
2. How many drinks have you had since the quarantine has started?
Hi, I've just finished celebrating Pesach. The two of us got through about 2 bottles of wine in the course of two seders and two kiddushes. And in the couple of weeks before that, something around one bottle between the two of us, again mostly for religious reasons rather than mental health reasons.
3. If you have kids... Are they driving you nuts?
I don't have kids, but there are children who are normally part of my life and now I'm quarantined in a different house from them. They are being amazing and bringing positivity to my life through the limited interaction we're allowed, playing music with me over video link, waving and sending hugs when I'm calling their adults or walking past their house for exercise. I am probably less sane than usual but it's from too little contact with not-my-own children, not too much.
4. What new hobby have you taken up during this
Online play readthroughs, organized by the marvellous
wildeabandon. I've tried to start an ultra, ultra low-key exercise routine at home, which isn't a completely new hobby, but is something I hadn't done for some years.
5. How many grocery runs have you done?
None at all since I had maybe suspicious symptoms. We've got by on the generosity of friends bringing us occasional top-ups of extra-perishable stuff like milk and mushrooms, a big online order that fortuitously arrived just before we started full isolation, and a couple of local organizations that were able to make limited deliveries of produce. Before that, we weren't really counting. We had a decent amount of supplies in at the start of lockdown, and
jack was visiting the local corner shop a couple of times a week to top up on fresh produce (with careful distancing), but we haven't needed to make a 'run' to a big supermarket since lockdown officially started.
6. What are you spending your stimulus check on?
I'm not getting any extra money, which is reasonable because I don't need any extra money. I am still working full time and still earning my full salary, as is
jack. I'm not really even spending much extra on working from home rather than in an office; it's warm enough not to need the heating on during the day, and we already had plenty of broadband. We're spending very slightly more on food because we're getting everything delivered rather than picking up our own shopping, but it's fairly trivial on the scale of things.
Also, can I just say it's a weird framing to talk about a 'stimulus', ie money provided to encourage people to spend and keep the economy buoyant. The state is paying money to people to make it possible for them to stay home without starving, and really the aim is, or should be, to keep the economy as stagnant as possible, not to encourage economic activity which would involve people interacting and spreading the infection.
7. Do you have any special occasions that you will miss during this quarantine?
My plague of disappointment started with a work trip to Paraguay to help with some in-person training. Then I missed spending Passover with my family like I normally do. Other than that, I saw this coming far enough in advance that I didn't make a whole lot of plans for this spring or summer
8. Are you keeping your housework done?
About the same amount as normal. To an extent we tend to tidy for visitors and we're not having any visitors. But we're mostly succeeding with keeping on top of general maintenance. On the other hand I did zero Passover cleaning because I was isolating from
jack at the time so not going into the kitchen, and I was uncertain enough about supplies that I wasn't willing to eliminate leavened products.
9a. What movie have you watched during this quarantine?
Lionheart
Porco Rosso
9b. What are you reading right now?
Err... Twitter, mostly. And some Gemara, the mystical bit of Chagigah, which is a project I've been meaning to get to for ages, and which I will hopefully be talking about soon.
9c. What video game are you playing?
At the weekend managed to progress our three-way game of Stellaris with
cjwatson in a different house, so that was cool. Still a lot of Monster Legends on my phone. A little bit of the second chapter of 12 Labours of Hercules, but only about as often as I was playing it anyway, which isn't very often.
10. What are you streaming with?
Netflix, and even that occasionally. Spotify and YouTube for music. I haven't managed to watch any of the free broadcast theatre and opera performances yet.
11. 9 months from now is there any chance of you having a baby?
Very unlikely but not completely impossible. I'm quarantined away from the partner I'm most likely to have potentially-reproductive sex with (but I guess rarely indulging isn't never). I am 41 and was recently diagnosed with PCOS so I'm quite possibly not as fertile as I spent most of my adult life assuming. I have a coil, which should be pretty reliable at preventing pregnancy, but it has reached the end of its predicted 10-year lifetime, and getting it replaced was one of the things I failed to get sorted out while non-emergency medical stuff was still happening.
My partner is going to have a baby much sooner than 9 months away though! She made it before the virus even existed, and I have absolutely no idea how long it will be before I'm allowed to meet the little one, but I'm still quite excited.
12. What's your go-to quarantine meal?
About the same as not in quarantine: we call it goulash, but it isn't really anything to do with goulash. It's a sort of veggie chilli, basically onions, garlic, spice, tomato sauce, some combination of Quorn mince and beans, and veg if we have lots of veg available but otherwise it's nice on its own.
13. Is this whole situation making you paranoid?
So
siderea the actual psych says it only counts as paranoia if you're irrationally afraid that
However, I've already spent much of the last five years worrying that the government and much of the populace want me dead, and it's the worst version of that increasingly nasty government which is in charge of deciding whether buying ventilators and medical equipment is a good use of money that could otherwise be used for bridges to nowhere. When I hear people ranting about foreigners or Europeans or 'citizens of nowhere' it feels personal. I think it isn't, mostly. I'm a shirley exception for lots of people, or at least, I see posts on social media about how it's morally good to exterminate Jews from people who are broadly civil to me as an individual.
I'm scared of vigilantes who are using the pandemic as an excuse for violence against people they don't like being out in public, and to an extent I'm scared of overreach by the official police. And I'm somewhat scared of looting, of people getting desperate enough that they start breaking into houses like mine where there is enough toilet paper and storable foods. And a little bit scared of wannabe fascists trying to deliberately infect liberals and Jews. But not very scared, not to the point that it's actually interfering with my day-to-day life. Anxious, I guess, rather than paranoid.
14. Has your internet gone out on you during this time?
Nah. Internet is fine and I'm deeply grateful for that.
15. What month do you predict this all ends?
I don't think it's going to end, really, not all of it at once. It's going to be a very gradual climb back towards sufficient population immunity that we can live our lives without infection avoidance being the major determining factor in all decisions.
Predicting the end of the plague would require me to predict all of: how fast scientists will come up with a vaccine and reliable tests; how the disease itself will move through the population; and what our terrible politicians will decide, and I don't really have any information on any of those.
I'm guessing some relaxation of lockdown round about July or August, but we will still be very much in a pandemic situation. Sticking my finger in the air I think we'll likely have the capacity for mass vaccination and testing by early 2021, let's say January. But whether we will actually in practice have an effective programme of prevention and detection depends on decisions by a leadership who are erratic and evil, plus we are heading for a cliff-edge end to our Brexit transition at the end of 2020, so I think people will still be getting infected and dying well into 2021 or even 2022.
16. First thing you're gonna do when you get off quarantine?
Go to my OSOs' house and hug my partners and their children. And meet the baby, because I'm pretty certain that getting off quarantine is happening after baby is external.
17. Where do you wish you were right now?
I'm pretty happy with my location, my nice pleasant house with all my friends inside my computer, surrounded by a beautiful spring. The problem is not where I am, it's that I have been forced to stay here for a month and expect to continue here for months to come. I wish I could go to other places, especially places where my friends are.
I slightly wish to be in a country with a competent government, if I have to pick somewhere I'd probably go for New Zealand, but I don't actually wish I were in NZ, since I don't know anybody there and I can't imagine the circumstances that would lead to being there.
18. What free-from-quarantine activity are you missing the most?
Visiting people in person, primarily.
19. Have you run out of toilet paper and hand sanitizer?
No. We usually buy a big family pack of TP once every few weeks and we happened to do so just before lockdown. Also I don't believe in hand sanitizer in a domestic setting.
20. Do you have enough food to last a month?
Yeah, probably. If we really couldn't get any fresh supplies for a whole month we would struggle, and we haven't counted it out in terms of calories and micronutrients per person per day, but we have decent amounts of long-lasting carbs and tinned vegetables.
1. Are you an Essential Worker?
Nope. I have been comfortably working from home for a month, making online education. It's useful, thousands of people have been learning about bacterial genomics from my stuff, but it's not essential. In many ways my job hasn't changed very much since lockdown since we did a lot of collaborating with scientists all over the world by conference call, in order to make material that goes on the internet anyway.
2. How many drinks have you had since the quarantine has started?
Hi, I've just finished celebrating Pesach. The two of us got through about 2 bottles of wine in the course of two seders and two kiddushes. And in the couple of weeks before that, something around one bottle between the two of us, again mostly for religious reasons rather than mental health reasons.
3. If you have kids... Are they driving you nuts?
I don't have kids, but there are children who are normally part of my life and now I'm quarantined in a different house from them. They are being amazing and bringing positivity to my life through the limited interaction we're allowed, playing music with me over video link, waving and sending hugs when I'm calling their adults or walking past their house for exercise. I am probably less sane than usual but it's from too little contact with not-my-own children, not too much.
4. What new hobby have you taken up during this
Online play readthroughs, organized by the marvellous
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5. How many grocery runs have you done?
None at all since I had maybe suspicious symptoms. We've got by on the generosity of friends bringing us occasional top-ups of extra-perishable stuff like milk and mushrooms, a big online order that fortuitously arrived just before we started full isolation, and a couple of local organizations that were able to make limited deliveries of produce. Before that, we weren't really counting. We had a decent amount of supplies in at the start of lockdown, and
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6. What are you spending your stimulus check on?
I'm not getting any extra money, which is reasonable because I don't need any extra money. I am still working full time and still earning my full salary, as is
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Also, can I just say it's a weird framing to talk about a 'stimulus', ie money provided to encourage people to spend and keep the economy buoyant. The state is paying money to people to make it possible for them to stay home without starving, and really the aim is, or should be, to keep the economy as stagnant as possible, not to encourage economic activity which would involve people interacting and spreading the infection.
7. Do you have any special occasions that you will miss during this quarantine?
My plague of disappointment started with a work trip to Paraguay to help with some in-person training. Then I missed spending Passover with my family like I normally do. Other than that, I saw this coming far enough in advance that I didn't make a whole lot of plans for this spring or summer
8. Are you keeping your housework done?
About the same amount as normal. To an extent we tend to tidy for visitors and we're not having any visitors. But we're mostly succeeding with keeping on top of general maintenance. On the other hand I did zero Passover cleaning because I was isolating from
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9a. What movie have you watched during this quarantine?
Lionheart
Porco Rosso
9b. What are you reading right now?
Err... Twitter, mostly. And some Gemara, the mystical bit of Chagigah, which is a project I've been meaning to get to for ages, and which I will hopefully be talking about soon.
9c. What video game are you playing?
At the weekend managed to progress our three-way game of Stellaris with
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10. What are you streaming with?
Netflix, and even that occasionally. Spotify and YouTube for music. I haven't managed to watch any of the free broadcast theatre and opera performances yet.
11. 9 months from now is there any chance of you having a baby?
Very unlikely but not completely impossible. I'm quarantined away from the partner I'm most likely to have potentially-reproductive sex with (but I guess rarely indulging isn't never). I am 41 and was recently diagnosed with PCOS so I'm quite possibly not as fertile as I spent most of my adult life assuming. I have a coil, which should be pretty reliable at preventing pregnancy, but it has reached the end of its predicted 10-year lifetime, and getting it replaced was one of the things I failed to get sorted out while non-emergency medical stuff was still happening.
My partner is going to have a baby much sooner than 9 months away though! She made it before the virus even existed, and I have absolutely no idea how long it will be before I'm allowed to meet the little one, but I'm still quite excited.
12. What's your go-to quarantine meal?
About the same as not in quarantine: we call it goulash, but it isn't really anything to do with goulash. It's a sort of veggie chilli, basically onions, garlic, spice, tomato sauce, some combination of Quorn mince and beans, and veg if we have lots of veg available but otherwise it's nice on its own.
13. Is this whole situation making you paranoid?
So
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beings with agency ... are behaving malevolently towards you personally. So, no, I do not think the virus is out to get me nor deliberately created by evil people.
However, I've already spent much of the last five years worrying that the government and much of the populace want me dead, and it's the worst version of that increasingly nasty government which is in charge of deciding whether buying ventilators and medical equipment is a good use of money that could otherwise be used for bridges to nowhere. When I hear people ranting about foreigners or Europeans or 'citizens of nowhere' it feels personal. I think it isn't, mostly. I'm a shirley exception for lots of people, or at least, I see posts on social media about how it's morally good to exterminate Jews from people who are broadly civil to me as an individual.
I'm scared of vigilantes who are using the pandemic as an excuse for violence against people they don't like being out in public, and to an extent I'm scared of overreach by the official police. And I'm somewhat scared of looting, of people getting desperate enough that they start breaking into houses like mine where there is enough toilet paper and storable foods. And a little bit scared of wannabe fascists trying to deliberately infect liberals and Jews. But not very scared, not to the point that it's actually interfering with my day-to-day life. Anxious, I guess, rather than paranoid.
14. Has your internet gone out on you during this time?
Nah. Internet is fine and I'm deeply grateful for that.
15. What month do you predict this all ends?
I don't think it's going to end, really, not all of it at once. It's going to be a very gradual climb back towards sufficient population immunity that we can live our lives without infection avoidance being the major determining factor in all decisions.
Predicting the end of the plague would require me to predict all of: how fast scientists will come up with a vaccine and reliable tests; how the disease itself will move through the population; and what our terrible politicians will decide, and I don't really have any information on any of those.
I'm guessing some relaxation of lockdown round about July or August, but we will still be very much in a pandemic situation. Sticking my finger in the air I think we'll likely have the capacity for mass vaccination and testing by early 2021, let's say January. But whether we will actually in practice have an effective programme of prevention and detection depends on decisions by a leadership who are erratic and evil, plus we are heading for a cliff-edge end to our Brexit transition at the end of 2020, so I think people will still be getting infected and dying well into 2021 or even 2022.
16. First thing you're gonna do when you get off quarantine?
Go to my OSOs' house and hug my partners and their children. And meet the baby, because I'm pretty certain that getting off quarantine is happening after baby is external.
17. Where do you wish you were right now?
I'm pretty happy with my location, my nice pleasant house with all my friends inside my computer, surrounded by a beautiful spring. The problem is not where I am, it's that I have been forced to stay here for a month and expect to continue here for months to come. I wish I could go to other places, especially places where my friends are.
I slightly wish to be in a country with a competent government, if I have to pick somewhere I'd probably go for New Zealand, but I don't actually wish I were in NZ, since I don't know anybody there and I can't imagine the circumstances that would lead to being there.
18. What free-from-quarantine activity are you missing the most?
Visiting people in person, primarily.
19. Have you run out of toilet paper and hand sanitizer?
No. We usually buy a big family pack of TP once every few weeks and we happened to do so just before lockdown. Also I don't believe in hand sanitizer in a domestic setting.
20. Do you have enough food to last a month?
Yeah, probably. If we really couldn't get any fresh supplies for a whole month we would struggle, and we haven't counted it out in terms of calories and micronutrients per person per day, but we have decent amounts of long-lasting carbs and tinned vegetables.
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Date: 2020-04-15 08:14 pm (UTC)Me too :(
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Date: 2020-04-15 08:49 pm (UTC)I might have phrased it a little differently, but it's a good point; it's not to "stimulate the economy," it's to keep people from starving. As for the economy, yes, we will have a depression, or recession, but in advanced countries, if there is enough money to keep people from starving, that's okay. Up and down is part of the economic cycle. (Again, I stress, as long as no one starves or is left homeless.) My fear about the economy is if this goes on long term (many many months or longer), and the world-wide economy actually collapses totally, then there will be mass starvation. However, we're a long way from that, and I doubt it will go that far.
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Date: 2020-04-16 08:59 am (UTC)I hope you get to hug your people safely soon.
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Date: 2020-04-16 07:25 pm (UTC)1. Are you an essential worker? Yes. Helping the government with designing schemes to support new ways of flowing money to businesses.
2. How many drinks have you had since the quarantine started? Over 20
3. If you have kids... are they driving you nuts? I don't.
4. What new hobby have you taken up during this? Nothing new, unless visiting trees we planted on the first quarantine weekend counts.
5. How many grocery runs have you done? None at all. Online delivery orders have been my standard for as long as they existed.
6. Do you have any special occasions that you will miss during this quarantine? Our cousin's wedding, our aunt's 50th wedding anniversary, our own wedding / housewarming party (which we will lose £2-3k over cancelling), four concerts that we had tickets for, our bee-keeping beginners course has been cancelled, a holiday in Italy, maybe a holiday in Dublin ...
7. Are you keeping your housework done? We are, minus a cleaner we are doing it ourselves. Fortunately, the gardener is still coming.
8. What movie have you watched during this quarantine? We haven't, but we have been watching the National Theatre on You Tube
9. What are you streaming with? I'm not
10. 9 months from now is there any chance of you having a baby? There's always a chance, it is never very big.
12. What's your go-to quarantine meal? I'm not sure we have one. Nothing different from normal, anyway. Eating without carbs does not leave much room for variety.
13. Is this whole situation making you paranoid? No.
14. Has your internet gone out on you during this time? No.
15. What month do you predict this all ends? I'm not sure it will end this year and I think the US will have it worse and stay under this for longer than any other developed country (though the idea of this passing through developing countries like India and Africa and Brazil makes me shudder). European countries are starting to slacken the rules already and I expect it to start to relax here next month.
16. First thing you're gonna do when you get off quarantine? Go to work.
17. Where do you wish you were right now? Nowhere better than home, right now.
18. What free-from-quarantine activity are you missing the most? Work
19. Have you run out of toilet paper and hand sanitizer? No
20. Do you have enough food to last a month? No. Fresh food doesn't keep that long and I don't think I could go a month without milk and fruit and vegetables. Well I could, but I expect never to have to.
21. What else have you run out of besides patience? Compost. Slippers (mine wore through).