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[personal profile] liv
Wow, doing the friending meme is proving an amazing experience! Nearly 1200 comments at the last count, and I know I can't take personal credit for that, but I'm still incredibly excited about all these cool people starting conversations right here in my journal.

I'm way behind in reading through the comments, looking for people to add, and leaving notes to say that I've done so, but I've already discovered some really fascinating people and journals. And lots and lots of people have subscribed to read my own blatherings. (I don't know how many because I'm so overwhelmed I haven't even had time to count the subscribers!) A very warm welcome to all of you. By the way, I won't at all feel offended if after a few weeks you decide I'm not really your cup of tea after all; it's always open season on subscribing or unsubscribing here.

One thing that really stood out to me looking over the comments is how many people define themselves as cis-sexual. I think that says something really positive about the general attitude here at DW, that people are so aware of these questions. I am in fact cis myself, but I didn't think to say so as like many cis people I don't regard that as key to my identity. (I'm also white, female and bisexual, but I don't see those as the most important categories either.)

The other consequence that happened was that I decided to follow up by posting something controversial about feminism. I didn't quite know what to expect, putting out such political stuff in front of a few dozen total strangers as opposed to my usual audience of people I either know or have second-degree connections to. I considered the possibility that some people would call me a manhating feminazi or other backlashy things, though given the general atmosphere at DW I didn't think that very likely. And in fact everybody posted really supportive comments, so thank you for justifying my leap of faith.

The thing is, though, that I was talking about a topic that is controversial among feminists, not just contentious between feminists and non-feminists. My post was in fact about that very controversy and how I want to have a feminist discussion about it, without a lot of anger and misery and people coming away feeling that their personal choices are being attacked. What did in fact happen was that one person commented with something a bit carelessly phrased, and the discussion ended up heading a little bit in the direction of exactly the kind of online feminism discussions which so distress me. I don't think anyone meant any harm by it, it's just that with such a relatively large crowd of new people all disagreeing vehemently, though politely, with one person can feel like a pile-on.

This isn't intended as a criticism of anyone, it's just started me thinking about whether I am up to the task of curating / moderating a conversation on a larger scale than I've been used to. Assuming of course that this new exciting wider audience stick around! Oh well, it's all a learning curve, and I've always been an attention-seeking sort of blogger anyway.

Also I'm having so much fun looking at my Google stats. It's like the whole world is lit up green with all these people looking at my little journal...

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Date: 2010-03-23 09:15 pm (UTC)
monanotlisa: Diana as Diana Prince in glasses and a hat, lifting the rim of the latter rakishly. HOT! (Default)
From: [personal profile] monanotlisa
It's good to see a leap of faith reach the other side, Liv. ;)

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Date: 2010-03-23 10:03 pm (UTC)
holyschist: Image of a medieval crocodile from Herodotus, eating a person, with the caption "om nom nom" (Default)
From: [personal profile] holyschist
I know the meme can't possibly be representative of DW's whole userbase, but it sure is darned interesting all the same as a cross-section of some part of it (the three things that stood out to me: lots of queer folks, lots of scientists, and a pretty diverse range of countries--but some of this perception may be my biases going "Squee, queer scientists everywhere!" and not always noticing the others. I dunno).

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Date: 2010-03-24 02:54 am (UTC)
mutantenemy: (Default)
From: [personal profile] mutantenemy
Hello! Open-minded Hetero here. Could you please educate me on what cis-sexual is? Thanks! :)

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Date: 2010-03-24 03:27 am (UTC)
mutantenemy: (Default)
From: [personal profile] mutantenemy
Okay. So if I'm understanding this correctly that means a lesbian, a homosexual, and a heterosexual can identify as cissexual as well?

Is that correct?

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Date: 2010-03-24 03:32 am (UTC)
synecdochic: torso of a man wearing jeans, hands bound with belt (Default)
From: [personal profile] synecdochic
Yup -- cis/trans is independent of LGB. LGB is sexual orientation (to put it crudely, whom you want to fuck), while cis/trans is gender identity and expression: do your mental gender and your physical sex agree with each other?

It's bad to define things by their opposites, but it is a bit easier to understand if you think of it as cissexual is the opposite of transsexual; if you are cis, you are not trans, and vice-versa.
Edited (i know the difference between gender and sex, really i do) Date: 2010-03-24 03:33 am (UTC)

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Date: 2010-03-24 03:42 am (UTC)
mutantenemy: (Default)
From: [personal profile] mutantenemy
Thank you so much for the extra clarification! That helps me out a lot. :)

Awesome. I learned something new today.

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Date: 2010-03-24 03:45 am (UTC)
synecdochic: torso of a man wearing jeans, hands bound with belt (Default)
From: [personal profile] synecdochic
You're welcome! Glad I could be of service. *tips hat*

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Date: 2010-03-24 03:30 pm (UTC)
dpfesh: (Love is never wrong)
From: [personal profile] dpfesh
I'm glad someone asked, i've been wondering too! I run around in the queer community and hadn't heard this cis-sexual before.

I wonder what you are if you're not quite trans and not quite cis.

words are fun :)

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Date: 2010-03-24 08:54 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] rho
I don't have the time to explain it myself right now, but you may want to try googling the term "gender queer".

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Date: 2010-03-24 11:21 pm (UTC)
dpfesh: (Default)
From: [personal profile] dpfesh
~grin~ yes i suppose that one would work :)
I would reckon i am a fluid gender/sexuality if i was forced to apply entirely appropriate terms. Usually i just stick with "Queer" as it's easier in genera.

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Date: 2010-03-24 08:58 am (UTC)
nanaya: Sarah Haskins as Rosie The Riveter, from Mother Jones (Default)
From: [personal profile] nanaya
It was a very good meme! I've not done it but I approve.

I've been busily creating new DW content myself - perhaps you've seed my posts about [community profile] seedclub?

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Date: 2010-03-24 08:58 am (UTC)
nanaya: Sarah Haskins as Rosie The Riveter, from Mother Jones (Default)
From: [personal profile] nanaya
*seen* my posts!

Argh. Well, apropos typo or what?

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Date: 2010-03-25 10:21 pm (UTC)
nanaya: Sarah Haskins as Rosie The Riveter, from Mother Jones (Default)
From: [personal profile] nanaya
Oh, complete beginners are very welcome! Most of us are beginners really. I only started gardening last year and I still don't know what I'm doing, as my posts about gardening should probably tell you. There's this sort of recurring theme of AARGH I B0RKED IT!!!

Also, the comm is as much for swapping stuff as chatting, and if you'd like to take any of the spare seeds off our long list of availables, just let me know :-)

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Date: 2010-03-24 12:06 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] delight
Honestly, I was kicking myself after my post for not saying I'm cissexual, due to the fact that my boyfriend is trans – and then I thought about it, and realized, the way he sees it, being trans or cis shouldn't actually matter. The same way, I don't tend to say "my trans boyfriend," because he's just my boyfriend, and he's a guy, even if he's at the beginning of medical transition and not the end.

And considering he and my two non-internet trans friends are all stealth, I genuinely don't ever think about it. Despite feeling stupid for not thinking about it.

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